Posts by La Capra

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JW and Disfellowshipped in School

by 00DAD in

have any of you ever been or known of a jw that either:.

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[endif]had a disfellowshipped teacher in school, or.

La Capra

I D'Aed in 1987 and began teaching high school in 1992. I've had a number of JWs and it never was an issue, some knew. Most did not. One from about 8 years ago came out to our table at the restaurant where she works to sing happy birthday to someone a few weeks ago. She was borderline when she was in my class (borderline jw that is, decent enough student), but the restaurant scene is now one of my "happy places."

Interesting note, though-if a JW parent requested to have a their kid removed from a DF'ed teacher's class, for any reason relating to the DF or religion, in a public school in the United States, the school administration cannot do it. It would violate the teacher's First Amendment rights. A JW teacher would not be able to have a DFed student removed from her class for the same reason. Doesn't matter if "minors are involved." If a public school administrator did move a student from the class for that reason, he or she could get in a whole lot of really bad trouble if the non-JW found out and decided to take legal action for violation of her civil rights.

La Capra

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Just got ahold of "secret elders meetings" notes.

by aquagirl in

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friends

cant say how,but i am in possession of about 10 years worth of elders meetings notes.financial info,personal lists,signed letters etc.disfellowshipping meeting minutes,the works.it is unbelieveable.some of the note are "investigate so and so,she was seen at a movie,talk to sister so and so about her weight,investigate the matter between so and so and so and so etc.

letters from circuit servant visits w/recommendatons.anyone got any ideas?there are even minutes of a meeting in which some of the elders "had words"...all in glorious initialed and signed paper.numbers,names,contributions..what should i do with this "blessing from hohoba?

"lol.

La Capra

Legally speaking, you could face some liability for making these things public. Just because you redact the names and addresses won't relieve you of this liability, if individuals could still be recognized by the details. It could be worse if anything you published was false, and you knew, or if you were making public some private information about individuals, or if the information you were putting out there tended to show them in a false light.

As "anonymous" as the internet seems, it's not anonymous at all with subpoenas, it is pretty hard to guarantee anonymity of the poster. Just ask the defendant on a case I'm working on right now. Domainsbyproxy.com spilled its guts within days of the subpoena. Didn't even bother notify the consumer (defendant) before revealing her identity, address, phone number, IP addresses, all her phone calls to the hosting service, and even her entire credit card number and its security codes to plaintiff's legal team (me).

Legitmate legal advice aside, we love any dirty, juicy, damning trash we can get our hands on. What's taking you so long?

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How Will Armageddon Strike?

by african GB Member in

will it happen at once the world over?.

will jw's be told to be at certain areas during that 'hour'?.

what about the df'd who might happen to be among jw's?.

La Capra

If the Organization isn't already saying this, they will soon: Armageddon has come and gone. We are living in a "spiritual paradise" now!

Shoshana

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How do you feel when you see groups of Jehovah's Witnesses in the ministry?

by nicolaou in

regret, anger, frustration?

how about sadness, sorrow, sympathy, understanding, even compassion!.

it can be quite confusing at times, especially if some of those witnesses were your friends.

La Capra

I get to see them on their coffee breaks at a little cafe I go to. It is always such an unusual site: Several women of varying ages dressed in tacky or frumpy ill-fitting outfits (whatever happened to the rule about dressing like the "business community") and usually one man, all decked out in a well-tailored (but not expensive) suit, "holding court" with the gals. My friend always says something like, "oh, a field trip from the compound, today, I see..."

I know it's wrong (I mean technically incorrect), but it's still funny as hell when she lets one of her Big Love remarks roll around the elder and his "harem."

Shoshana

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Shunning: A Violation of YOUR Right of Freedom from Religion?

by cameo-d in

i really get hot under the collar when i read the stories of ex-jws being told to leave weddings, funerals, and family gatherings simply because the.

wt has overstepped their bounds and passed public judgement on these people declaring them "unfit to be around".. .

these judgements are based on adherance to wt interpretation of scriptures and organizational rules and laws they have devised from this "pick.

La Capra

The freedom of religion guaranty protects individuals from the government's infringement on religion, and from the government establishing religion (or favoring one over another). There are some extensions within the context of work place and a few other categories. However an individual can shun away. The use of a funeral home would likely fall into the category of privately rented property, though, since someone is always paying for the services and room at the facility.

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Ex-JW Beauty Queen

by La Capra in

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friends

not sure if this made it here yet:.

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090315/articles/903150964.

we share something exactly in common, "when she left the religion as a 19 year-old ssu student..." i am very sad her dad shuns her, though..

La Capra

Not sure if this made it here yet:

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090315/ARTICLES/903150964

We share something exactly in common, "when she left the religion as a 19 year-old SSU student..." I am very sad her dad shuns her, though.

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Remember the American Indian Tract?

by purplesofa in

here is where the new tract is posted.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/162314/1.ashx.

these photos were taken in toronto, canada at the 15th annual aboriginal festival in the sky dome on nov. 28 & 29, 2008. this was a booth that was set up, showcasing jehovah's witnesses and the literature available in the different native languages.

La Capra

Think of all the hours and placements they could count...This alone could spike a few congregations' service reports for '08! Such a deal, have 20 or 30 "volunteers" who spent most of their time strolling the rest of the show (and are also able to buy food there, too, I'd guess, maybe even a beer) while counting hour after hour of "publishing."

Shoshana

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very simple hot meal recipes wanted :)

by asilentone in

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friends

i want very simple hot meal recipes.

i am looking forward to see some of your recipes.

La Capra

Spray an oven-safe baking dish and lid with non stick spray: Put in 2 frozen chicken breasts, one bag frozen black-eyed peas, 2 cans beef broth, one chopped onion, (about) 1/2 cup (or so) dry red wine, (about) 2 teaspoon ground thyme, (about) 2 teaspoon garlic salt and ground pepper. Bake at 375-400 for (about) an hour. After an hour (during which you should finish the dry red wine and take a nap), remove chicken, chop it up and return to dish, add (about) 1 cup white rice and bake for another 20-30 minutes. (Best baked on a foil-line cookie sheet to protect oven from splatters, even through the lid.) I guess if defrosted chicken breasts were used, chop the chicken and add rice after 30-35 minutes.

If the ingredients are all on hand (they are in my kitchen) this can get into the oven in about five minutes (chopping the onion being the only real "prep") without a lot of post-prep clean-up. It also gives you a good hour to do other stuff. We serve this stand alone or with bread.

This one warms the belly and the soul, and might possiby bring good ~~luck~~ fortune.

Shoshana

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A Divorce Win

by truthsetsonefree in

as some of you may remember i have been embroiled in a divorce for the past year and a half.

i had helped my wife to see the reality of the jws.

but she ran back to it and that complicated things.

La Capra

In my local jurisdiction in California, that's called a stipulation-order. They are binding whenever the magistrate says they are, regardless of whether they are signed (lots of California case law on that) or entered by the judge. Here, if one party later refuses to sign a stip-ord, the other party can still have the order entered, after a certain period of time. Is there something similar in New York? I hope so, because challenging the psych-eval is an expensive process for everyone. Thank-goodness for the "best interests of the child" standard.

Shoshana

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Birthdays are now a matter of conscience????

by sacrebleu in

i just heard this.

i can't believe it.

does anyone know if this is true?.

La Capra

MY JW mom and my non-JW dad came to dinner in a restaurant for the express purpose of celebrating my birthday. There was cake and singing, and everything. Two weeks later, they accepted an invitation to my husband's surprise birthday party too. I almost feel like creating trouble for my mom, but I won't. Everything is conscience matter. When you do something that is "forbidden," If it bothers your conscience, you confess. If you get caught by someone and it bothers his conscience, then you're sitting in a committee, one way or the other.

Shoshana